Well its all been said before I think so lets see what can I add, hmmm,
well designed and manufactured product also faultless supplier service.
I think though a couple of things need to be spelled out for the new users !
No its not going to be like a real pussy, it doesn't moan, throb, cream, pulsate, give olfactory stimulation or leave scratches down your back, however that said it certainly will give you a far better experience than miss palmer ever could and it will help you gain better control over the one eyed monster, that alone should be worth the bucks !
One thing I did noticed though, in the beginning its like any relationship in that it takes time to get used to it,
to find how to get the max out of it, time to experiment and to push it to the limits so you can really blow your mind.
Oh yeah and it is time well worth spending, especially if your partner wants to get involved.
Personally I kinda got my WonderWave by accident, it was a gift for my bro that didn't make it on time,
but both me and my wife are thanking the gods for that stroke of serendipity.
Full Version: Yup you guessed it another member of the FL club
Read with much interest, Bigal.
You are so right about "time to get used to it", some people seem to expect instant and complete success i.e."Instant gratification"
Good things are worth working for, imo
Thanx
You are so right about "time to get used to it", some people seem to expect instant and complete success i.e."Instant gratification"
Good things are worth working for, imo
Thanx
totally agree fln, theyve been few and far between lately.
BigAl, well said on the testy. Always great to see another satisfied customer and a testy to go with it
BigAl, well said on the testy. Always great to see another satisfied customer and a testy to go with it
You know... I think it's a male thing. It's all about 'blowing your load'. I guess that's why it would be nice if all males enjoyed the full body orgasms and not just the cumming part - like the ladies. I envy their mulitple, long-lasting orgasms that leave them trembling afterwards as well. Well, the ones that have those anyway.
hehee .. well now I remember BigAl and his order.. and congrats, glad you got to enjoy it and the wife as well. We'd love to see her input on here as well.. just not enough girls to share the love.. lol
As with the guys it is good to see some new and fresh input, it reminds me why I like Fleshlight so much.
Welcome to the FLight Club!
Pash
As with the guys it is good to see some new and fresh input, it reminds me why I like Fleshlight so much.
Welcome to the FLight Club!
Pash
QUOTE(BigAl @ Nov 28 2007, 12:33 AM) 
Oh yeah and it is time well worth spending, especially if your partner wants to get involved.
Personally I kinda got my WonderWave by accident, it was a gift for my bro that didn't make it on time,
but both me and my wife are thanking the gods for that stroke of serendipity.
Personally I kinda got my WonderWave by accident, it was a gift for my bro that didn't make it on time,
but both me and my wife are thanking the gods for that stroke of serendipity.
Can you elaborate on this a bit more? My wife isn't even interested in joining in or assisting.
tankman, does your wife have toys?
If so try some mutual masturbation, use it like foreplay before you start having sex
If so try some mutual masturbation, use it like foreplay before you start having sex
QUOTE(fazman @ Dec 1 2007, 02:57 PM)
tankman, does your wife have toys?
If so try some mutual masturbation, use it like foreplay before you start having sex
If so try some mutual masturbation, use it like foreplay before you start having sex
No she doesn't have any toys and she won't have any. Having sex.... thats why I bought the fleshlight in the first place. My wife is like a nun. She can go for weeks and months without even thinking about sex. Her sister is exactly the same.
aww crap man, i really feel for u in that. When fazchicky had our second son, it was few and far between. I knew this was coming and thats why I ended up ordering my very first fleshlight. If I dont blow my load every 3 days, I start wanting it more and more, so the fleshlights help me to releive this tension.
I just went searching for some documents on this matter. I was always told that men "need" to blow around every 3 days because our system needs to release the build up of semen in it.
Have a read thru this one, just skip the first italic section where women are having their comments.
http://www.mensconfraternity.org.au/?page=p79
Found this part too. Just extracted the good stuff. Too much other crap about religion and stuff in it.
Have a read thru this one, just skip the first italic section where women are having their comments.
http://www.mensconfraternity.org.au/?page=p79
Found this part too. Just extracted the good stuff. Too much other crap about religion and stuff in it.
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Sperm Warfare
The explanation for masturbation and so much of human sexual behaviour is to be found with the true nature of sperm. In the high school biology class semen is a rather uniform liquid containing sperm, absurdly large numbers of free swimming single cells containing a random half the genetic material of the man. OK, so far so good, but it does miss most of the important detail. Most sperm has no chance of fertilizing an egg and it doesn't even try. Egg getting sperm are an elite corps within a vast army (navy? whatever) with different functions. Alongside the egg getters are killer sperm who do not try to get to the egg but instead exist for the sole purpose of killing foreign sperm, sperm from any other man. Also in the same army are vast numbers of sluggishly swimming blockers, sperm whose function is to hinder the progress of egg getter and killer sperm of other men. Most sperm are there to fight, to make war not babies.
If women were 100% faithful and reliable men would only need a very small quantity of sperm, and nothing but egg-getting sperm. But Homo sapiens are not like that. Women cheat, and men cheat. That is why men (as well as many other species) have evolved multifunction ejaculates which are capable of attacking and defending against armies or armadas of sperm from other men. The secret to efficient sperm warfare is the maintenance of a healthy balance between fresh and stale sperm. If a man never masturbates his testicles do not explode, but his sperm ducts do fill up with elderly and uncompetitive sperm.
Sperm that are not ejaculated will eventually be reabsorbed by the body, as happens in men who have been vasectomized, there cannot be an explosion or other form of major calamity. The tiny (mythical?) minority of men who never masturbate would not suffer physical pain as a result, the problem of excess semen finds its own solution in the form of a spontaneous (usually nocturnal) emission.
Most men and women are faithful to their partners but a significant minority are not, which means that a significant minority of your and my ancestors were adulterers. Some people have more adulterers among their ancestors than others and so have more competitive sperm warfare measures, but all members of our species have some such measures. Most parts of our sexual anatomy and sexual behaviour are shaped by the evolutionary forces of sperm warfare. Sperm warfare is one of the most powerful aspects of natural selection, and the entire phenomenon was virtually unknown a couple of decades ago and still very few so called experts in the field of sex therapy, general medicine or psychology or know anything about it.
Sperm warfare measures include a large penis which introduces the semen deep into the vagina, right up against the cervix and a large penis also acts as an efficient pump, drawing anything in the vagina out. You may have noticed that a vigorous session of thrusting often leaves the base of the penis covered in a ring of vaginal mucus which has been drawn out of the vagina, the corona, the edge of the glans penis, acting like a piston. This can lead to eventual discomfort and friction as the penis pumps out all the available mucus and moisture. The job of the penis is not just to add the man's own sperm to the far end of the vagina, it is also well designed to remove any previous deposits.
The most obvious sperm warfare measure is the size of the ejaculate. We have much bigger testicles than our cousins the chaste and faithful gorillas, but smaller than the rampantly promiscuous bonobo or pygmy chimpanzee. Tens of millions of sperm in every ejaculation, but only one sperm is required to ensure fertilization. But this hides the truth, men with low sperm counts are functionally infertile despite producing millions of sperm, because one sperm isn't enough. Most of those sperm have no chance of getting anywhere near the egg, many of the sperm are incapable of fertilizing an egg. They are blockers or killers. Sperm change roles with age. To keep an ejaculate competitive a man must shed sperm, must want to shed sperm, must be made to think he has chosen to shed sperm. That is the explanation. Men masturbate to shed old sperm and keep the balance of their ejaculates correct. Too much masturbation and the sperm armies are too small, too little and they are stale, full of blockers, incapable of fertilizing an egg. The urge to masturbate is triggered deep in the brain well below any traces of conscious thinking. The rational conscious part of the brain simply reacts to this message of urgency and if there is not an imminent likelihood of sex with an appropriate partner his rational brain finds a suitable avenue for the urge. That explains why men do not visit porn sites six times a day, every day, although at some times they do get such urges. Naturally there is feedback from the body and in particular the testicles which excites or dampens the urge to shed sperm but like an iceberg the vast majority of the decision making process is under the surface.
The explanation for masturbation and so much of human sexual behaviour is to be found with the true nature of sperm. In the high school biology class semen is a rather uniform liquid containing sperm, absurdly large numbers of free swimming single cells containing a random half the genetic material of the man. OK, so far so good, but it does miss most of the important detail. Most sperm has no chance of fertilizing an egg and it doesn't even try. Egg getting sperm are an elite corps within a vast army (navy? whatever) with different functions. Alongside the egg getters are killer sperm who do not try to get to the egg but instead exist for the sole purpose of killing foreign sperm, sperm from any other man. Also in the same army are vast numbers of sluggishly swimming blockers, sperm whose function is to hinder the progress of egg getter and killer sperm of other men. Most sperm are there to fight, to make war not babies.
If women were 100% faithful and reliable men would only need a very small quantity of sperm, and nothing but egg-getting sperm. But Homo sapiens are not like that. Women cheat, and men cheat. That is why men (as well as many other species) have evolved multifunction ejaculates which are capable of attacking and defending against armies or armadas of sperm from other men. The secret to efficient sperm warfare is the maintenance of a healthy balance between fresh and stale sperm. If a man never masturbates his testicles do not explode, but his sperm ducts do fill up with elderly and uncompetitive sperm.
Sperm that are not ejaculated will eventually be reabsorbed by the body, as happens in men who have been vasectomized, there cannot be an explosion or other form of major calamity. The tiny (mythical?) minority of men who never masturbate would not suffer physical pain as a result, the problem of excess semen finds its own solution in the form of a spontaneous (usually nocturnal) emission.
Most men and women are faithful to their partners but a significant minority are not, which means that a significant minority of your and my ancestors were adulterers. Some people have more adulterers among their ancestors than others and so have more competitive sperm warfare measures, but all members of our species have some such measures. Most parts of our sexual anatomy and sexual behaviour are shaped by the evolutionary forces of sperm warfare. Sperm warfare is one of the most powerful aspects of natural selection, and the entire phenomenon was virtually unknown a couple of decades ago and still very few so called experts in the field of sex therapy, general medicine or psychology or know anything about it.
Sperm warfare measures include a large penis which introduces the semen deep into the vagina, right up against the cervix and a large penis also acts as an efficient pump, drawing anything in the vagina out. You may have noticed that a vigorous session of thrusting often leaves the base of the penis covered in a ring of vaginal mucus which has been drawn out of the vagina, the corona, the edge of the glans penis, acting like a piston. This can lead to eventual discomfort and friction as the penis pumps out all the available mucus and moisture. The job of the penis is not just to add the man's own sperm to the far end of the vagina, it is also well designed to remove any previous deposits.
The most obvious sperm warfare measure is the size of the ejaculate. We have much bigger testicles than our cousins the chaste and faithful gorillas, but smaller than the rampantly promiscuous bonobo or pygmy chimpanzee. Tens of millions of sperm in every ejaculation, but only one sperm is required to ensure fertilization. But this hides the truth, men with low sperm counts are functionally infertile despite producing millions of sperm, because one sperm isn't enough. Most of those sperm have no chance of getting anywhere near the egg, many of the sperm are incapable of fertilizing an egg. They are blockers or killers. Sperm change roles with age. To keep an ejaculate competitive a man must shed sperm, must want to shed sperm, must be made to think he has chosen to shed sperm. That is the explanation. Men masturbate to shed old sperm and keep the balance of their ejaculates correct. Too much masturbation and the sperm armies are too small, too little and they are stale, full of blockers, incapable of fertilizing an egg. The urge to masturbate is triggered deep in the brain well below any traces of conscious thinking. The rational conscious part of the brain simply reacts to this message of urgency and if there is not an imminent likelihood of sex with an appropriate partner his rational brain finds a suitable avenue for the urge. That explains why men do not visit porn sites six times a day, every day, although at some times they do get such urges. Naturally there is feedback from the body and in particular the testicles which excites or dampens the urge to shed sperm but like an iceberg the vast majority of the decision making process is under the surface.
Thank you Faz. Thought provoking. Things there I didn't know. Some of the women's comments seem a bit extreme!
lol yeh, thats why I said skip over them. They seem like they have an issue with men on a huge level. Probably all ugly and have never known love
QUOTE(tankman @ Dec 1 2007, 05:01 PM)
No she doesn't have any toys and she won't have any. Having sex.... thats why I bought the fleshlight in the first place. My wife is like a nun. She can go for weeks and months without even thinking about sex. Her sister is exactly the same.
That sure can can put tremendous strain on a relationship, but I do believe it can be balance out, I know someone who had great success using herbs.
I dug you up this article that may help put things in focus for you.
There are five major areas involved in human sexuality and sex drive:
1. Psychological and Mental -- The causes of psychological sexual dysfunction resulting in low male and female sex drive are numerous, and it is difficult to list them all, but most often low sex drive is related to depression, performance anxiety, marital stress or relationship problems, life crisis, financial difficulties, religious or moral repression, or some type of mental condition or illness. The sex drive of women plummets sharply as they juggle the increasing demands of partners, children and careers.
2. Hormonal- - Androgens, such as testosterone, are a major component of sex drive. Testosterone levels decline about 1 percent each year in men, which may contribute to lower male sex drive with aging. Testosterone also declines with age in women leading to a decrease in female sex drive. Women who have had surgical removal of the ovaries notice a drop in sexual interest. Replacement of androgens can be helpful in those with age related sexual dysfunction. Testosterone is available by prescription only. An over the counter hormones, such as DHEA, converts into testosterone and thus increase sex drive. Pregnenolone is another over the counter hormone that may increase testosterone levels and thus enhance sex drive. However, hormone use has drawbacks due to potential side effects. A better option is to use natural herbs that increase sex drive. Birth control pills could reduce sex drive in women.
3. Vascular -- Alterations in the flow of blood to and from the penis are thought to be a common cause of male erectile dysfunction. For instance, medical conditions such as atherosclerosis (hardening of the arteries), high cholesterol, hypertension, or diabetes reduce blood flow to the penis and genital organs thus leading to difficulty with erection or genital swelling. Additional factors that can impede blood flow include penile injury, surgery in the pelvic or abdominal area, and sitting on a bicycle too long. Men who log several thousand miles a year on their mountain bikes suffer scrotal damage that could reduce their fertility.
4. Neural - Nerve damage from disorders such as diabetes, multiple sclerosis, Parkinson’s disease, and stroke affect the brain’s ability to respond to sexual stimulation. In women, abdominal or pelvic operations can occasionally lead to nerve damage. Sexual dysfunction is common in men undergoing surgical treatment for prostate enlargement or cancer.
5. Chemical -- Some chemicals involved in the human sexual response and sex drive include dopamine, acetylcholine, and nitric oxide.
Herbs for Enhancing Sex Drive
There are dozens of herbs that enhance both male and female sex drive. Here are a few that I discuss in my book Natural Sex Boosters:
Ashwagandha, catuaba, butea superba, cnidium, damiana, ginseng, horny goat weed, maca, muira puama, passion Flower, rhodiola, rehmannia, suma. tribulus, tongkat ali, and yohimbe. Nutrients that could be helpful include acetyl-l-carnitine, dmg, tmg, choline, cdp-choline, and hormones dhea and pregnenolone.
Sex drive and Medical conditions
Certain medical conditions reduce sex drive, performance, or enjoyment. These include hypertension, diabetes, high cholesterol, cardiovascular disease, peripheral vascular disease, and neurologic disorders, and insomnia.
Drugs and sex drive
Drugs that interfere with sex drive or sexual function include some anti-hypertensives, SSRIs, sedatives, and beta-blockers. Smoking can reduce genital blood flow. Many people report no sex drive after starting beta blockers or SSRIs.
Alcohol and Sex Drive
Problem drinking may dampen both a man's sex drive and his chances of having children. Alcoholics have lower testosterone levels and more sperm abnormalities than non-drinkers. Alcohol's negative affect on sex drive increases with age.
Sex Drive Reduced by Birth Control Pills
Birth control pills may suppress some women's sex drive long after they stop taking the pill. Birth control has long been known to alter some women's sex drive. Oral contraceptives can alter the proteins found in the blood, which may be responsible for long-term damage to sex drive. More than 100 million women throughout the world use birth control pills and 80 percent of American women born after 1945 have taken the pill.
Sex drive and testosterone cream
Testosterone cream does not appear to boost the sex drives of women cancer survivors suffering from low libido. Dr. Debra L. Barton of the Mayo Clinic College of Medicine in Rochester, Minnesota, wanted to find out if the testosterone hormone cream could be helpful to female cancer survivors who normally experience a drop in sex drive, especially after treatment for breast or gynecologic cancers. The researchers randomized 150 women to receive the testosterone cream or a placebo cream for four weeks, after which they were switched to the opposite treatment for an additional four weeks. While women given testosterone showed an increase in blood levels of the hormone, their change in sex drive was the same whether they were on the real testosterone cream or the placebo. All studies in which testosterone cream was found to help increase libido were conducted in postmenopausal women taking estrogen. But because women in the current study were cancer survivors, estrogen supplementation was not an option, even though their levels of estrogen were low. It's likely, Barton and her colleagues conclude, that a woman must have adequate levels of estrogen in order for testosterone to be an effective treatment for low sex drive. Journal of the National Cancer Institute, May 2, 2007.
QUOTE(BigAl @ Dec 2 2007, 05:37 PM)
That sure can can put tremendous strain on a relationship, but I do believe it can be balance out, I know someone who had great success using herbs.
I dug you up this article that may help put things in focus for you.
I dug you up this article that may help put things in focus for you.
Thanks Al. Interesting reading. I tried to get my wife to go on the fish oil capsules that Pash has mentioned in the orgasmic diet for women. The big problem is she won't take them! She doesn't see her low sex drive as a problem and any discussion on sex usually ends in an argument. The fleshlights do help with things but aren't the ultimate answer. Its not really the release, but more the intimacy for me. My wife suffers from depression, which has killed what little libido there was and the anti-depressants have killed the rest. Her doctor said to her that it was important for her to maintain a sex life or we would drift apart. I don't know what else to do really. She is trying to wean herself off the anti depressants which can make things at home fairly volatile sometimes. I have talked to several people who were in similar circumstances and everything I've tried has been to no avail. She is aware that I want sex regularly but won't do anything about it. My demands are not that great. I'd be happy to have sex once a week but I'm lucky if its once a month. If anyone has any realistic solutions I'd love to hear them.
ive heard alot of times that the anti depressants can do that. Weird since the term anti depressant should mean happy not depressed so ud think that would be a plus.
I guess Tankman, your wife needs to look at your relationship from both sides, if she wants it to last then it has to be worked at from both urs and her sides of the marriage and not just from you, whether she is depressed or not.
Is there any alternative medicines that help with depression, without the side affects of low libido?
Realistically, once a week is not much at all. Any longer than that and im looking for my fleshlights anyways. Totally understand where u mention the intimacy, the fleshlight cant offer this, and even when fazchicky says go fuck ur fleshlight, i say yeh could do that, but would really prefer to be with u for the closeness
I guess Tankman, your wife needs to look at your relationship from both sides, if she wants it to last then it has to be worked at from both urs and her sides of the marriage and not just from you, whether she is depressed or not.
Is there any alternative medicines that help with depression, without the side affects of low libido?
Realistically, once a week is not much at all. Any longer than that and im looking for my fleshlights anyways. Totally understand where u mention the intimacy, the fleshlight cant offer this, and even when fazchicky says go fuck ur fleshlight, i say yeh could do that, but would really prefer to be with u for the closeness
exactly, doctors are too quick to prescribe pills nowadays. Kids with so called ADD dont always have this, usually its just they are a little over active, but thats normal for all kids. Id be more concerned with ones that sat still and did nothing.
QUOTE(fazman @ Dec 3 2007, 11:46 AM)
exactly, doctors are too quick to prescribe pills nowadays. Kids with so called ADD dont always have this, usually its just they are a little over active, but thats normal for all kids. Id be more concerned with ones that sat still and did nothing.
You're right. They hand them out to teenagers like lollies and most of them do just need to harden up. It started with post natal depression and got worse with each child (we have three). Its a difficult balance. She doesn't want to be on them and she is trying to wean off them, but its the lesser of two evils. Shes either an extremely volatile person with some libido or a happy one without much. The kids and I have been through hell over the months before she got help. Everytime I try and talk to her about it she does the 'here comes the talk about sex' thing again and I just can't take the agro anymore.
I was impressed when she first went to the doctor he tried on vitamin B6 which did help a little but not enough so hence the drugs. Things got worse about 18 months ago and she shut herself in the bathroom and was thinking of harming herself. She realised and saw the doc again. I guess because she has no desire she doesn't see it as a problem, just me pestering her. I told her jokingly that she should become a lesbian as she loves oral, but isn't really into intercourse.
Thanks for being a sounding board guys, it helps to talk. Life will just carry on as usual I guess.
always welcome tankman. Our little community is here for that as well as fleshlights
Yes, we have many abilities here tankman.
Actually, like what you said about the ADD Faz. Most kids are little shits (especially boys) and they don't necessarily have the illness, they are just immature and that's part of growing up. Not me though, I was a sweet little boy
Actually, like what you said about the ADD Faz. Most kids are little shits (especially boys) and they don't necessarily have the illness, they are just immature and that's part of growing up. Not me though, I was a sweet little boy
Theres actually strong evidence now coming to light showing that many of the imbalances in children and adults actually stem from the fact that food has become less nutritional due to the methods of raw food production as well as the manifacturing processes and all the additives.
The result of this is that people just aren't getting the levels of trace elements they used to get, brains in particular require trace elements, deficiencies cause imbalances.
Unfortunately the products that drug companies produce treat symptoms not causes, its a money thing the items cost a lot to develop so its in their interest to have lots of patients, a cynical attitude I know but its well substantiated if you look closely at the data.
@tankman, if your wife doesn't like supplements(pills) and many people don't, then your best bet is to start incorporating the substances into your diet in their raw form, eg more seafood, teas can also be a nice way to incorporate herbs without taking pills.
LOL and you can always get devious and spike the food, thats if you cook of course.
Once you break the hump it does get easier.
The result of this is that people just aren't getting the levels of trace elements they used to get, brains in particular require trace elements, deficiencies cause imbalances.
Unfortunately the products that drug companies produce treat symptoms not causes, its a money thing the items cost a lot to develop so its in their interest to have lots of patients, a cynical attitude I know but its well substantiated if you look closely at the data.
@tankman, if your wife doesn't like supplements(pills) and many people don't, then your best bet is to start incorporating the substances into your diet in their raw form, eg more seafood, teas can also be a nice way to incorporate herbs without taking pills.
LOL and you can always get devious and spike the food, thats if you cook of course.
Once you break the hump it does get easier.
It's funny. I had dinner with my mother and some friends just after writing in this topic and my mother mentioned how she had been depressed for two weeks. She does get depressed for an hour or two every now then but that's normal for most people (not me though, I am just never depressed - it is a wonderful quality to always be positive, although I am empathic towards others so there moods can really effect me)
Anyway, back on track. The doctors have decreased the dosage of her thyroid medication and whattya know, she is a lot more happy now. Stupid drugs sometimes do more damage than good.
Anyway, back on track. The doctors have decreased the dosage of her thyroid medication and whattya know, she is a lot more happy now. Stupid drugs sometimes do more damage than good.
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not me though, I am just never depressed - it is a wonderful quality to always be positive
Sounds like u got some sanquine in u lordoth.
Im a phlegmatic personality. Laid back, dont let things get to me even when the stress of it should. The attitude of shit happens is something that I live by, saves the stress then.
If youve never heard those personality types before do a search on the book personality plus. good read.
Tank.. the fish oil is great for depression maybe this is the angle you can try on her.. Also it helps with so many other things.. sex drive being a bonus I guess.
As for guys holding out too long.
When I was married my husband didn't masturbate and so sex was short lived.. foreplay was luckily a lot longer than the act itself he was one of the guys that gave credit to the statistic of many men usually lasting 2 mins. I masturbated a lot, and in the end he felt i was more interested in my toys than him. He just didn't understand it.
But in regards to his no masturbation .. some times it would be weeks before we'd have sex.. purely because I would avoid him and any contact, I just lost interest in it. Not sex drive. There was no turn on for me and in the end the sex we did have was to get rid of not only the built up semen tension he was experiencing but the personality tension that was like walking around on egg shells. My point is .. I stopped giving him oral sex because his cum looked ghastly.. ie NOT fresh at all. This disturbed me almost as much as him.. because before and after my marriage I have been as cock/cum loving as I always was. lol So don't hold off for more than a few days to build it up purely because if you are planning on someone gobbling it down.. WE would like it to be fresh please! lol
Pash
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As for guys holding out too long.
When I was married my husband didn't masturbate and so sex was short lived.. foreplay was luckily a lot longer than the act itself he was one of the guys that gave credit to the statistic of many men usually lasting 2 mins. I masturbated a lot, and in the end he felt i was more interested in my toys than him. He just didn't understand it.
But in regards to his no masturbation .. some times it would be weeks before we'd have sex.. purely because I would avoid him and any contact, I just lost interest in it. Not sex drive. There was no turn on for me and in the end the sex we did have was to get rid of not only the built up semen tension he was experiencing but the personality tension that was like walking around on egg shells. My point is .. I stopped giving him oral sex because his cum looked ghastly.. ie NOT fresh at all. This disturbed me almost as much as him.. because before and after my marriage I have been as cock/cum loving as I always was. lol So don't hold off for more than a few days to build it up purely because if you are planning on someone gobbling it down.. WE would like it to be fresh please! lol
Pash
x
I've certainly done a few rounds with depression myself, for some years even, this was brought on by the after effects of medical treatments.
Even when your actively working at overcoming depression its damn hard; its probably the hardest thing I've done in my life.
But being male my sex drive didn't diminish, even though my abilities did, it became stronger as my body craved the fun chemicals sex produces, unfortunately the wife of that time was less than accommodating.
Point being partnerships can be hard sometimes, you just have to grin and bare it.
Even when your actively working at overcoming depression its damn hard; its probably the hardest thing I've done in my life.
But being male my sex drive didn't diminish, even though my abilities did, it became stronger as my body craved the fun chemicals sex produces, unfortunately the wife of that time was less than accommodating.
Point being partnerships can be hard sometimes, you just have to grin and bare it.
BigAl - I do like "grin and bAre it! lol
QUOTE(Pash @ Dec 4 2007, 12:12 AM)
Tank.. the fish oil is great for depression maybe this is the angle you can try on her.. Also it helps with so many other things.. sex drive being a bonus I guess.
So don't hold off for more than a few days to build it up purely because if you are planning on someone gobbling it down.. WE would like it to be fresh please! lol
Pash
x
So don't hold off for more than a few days to build it up purely because if you are planning on someone gobbling it down.. WE would like it to be fresh please! lol
Pash
x
I tried that angle Pash. She said she would take them when and if she wanted to, not because I thought it was a good idea and might help her depression. She's very stubborn. j
As for gobbling it down, there is absolutely no chance of that happening. I get very little foreplay, not that it takes much to get me aroused. She gets it all. She will go without intercourse given the opportunity as the foreplay usually does it for her. I pestered her for ages to give me oral and she tried it but doesn't like the salty taste of the pre-cum so she will not even go near that area. As for you saying about your husband getting grumpy, I get like that some times even with the fleshlight. Its the craving for human contact, not the release.
QUOTE(FLN @ Dec 4 2007, 08:03 AM)
I've read that book, and to be honest I thought it was a bit of a waste of time. While it's easy enough to cramp everyone into a handful of personality types, using those ideals to define the way you act towards others seems a bit shallow to me.
While, obviously, not everyone is a beautiful unique snowflake, it doesn't hurt to treat (and perceive) everyone as individuals.
Haha, I assure you Pash that most of us wouldn't hold out on head just to build up a load.
While, obviously, not everyone is a beautiful unique snowflake, it doesn't hurt to treat (and perceive) everyone as individuals.
Haha, I assure you Pash that most of us wouldn't hold out on head just to build up a load.
The book is a generalisation of the 4 main personalities. Its the simplest one to use. There is a more advanced one, that gets right down into every type of personality, but dam that one was really hard to get into.
QUOTE(tankman @ Dec 4 2007, 01:44 PM)
I tried that angle Pash. She said she would take them when and if she wanted to, not because I thought it was a good idea and might help her depression. She's very stubborn. j
As for gobbling it down, there is absolutely no chance of that happening. I get very little foreplay, not that it takes much to get me aroused. She gets it all. She will go without intercourse given the opportunity as the foreplay usually does it for her. I pestered her for ages to give me oral and she tried it but doesn't like the salty taste of the pre-cum so she will not even go near that area. As for you saying about your husband getting grumpy, I get like that some times even with the fleshlight. Its the craving for human contact, not the release.
As for gobbling it down, there is absolutely no chance of that happening. I get very little foreplay, not that it takes much to get me aroused. She gets it all. She will go without intercourse given the opportunity as the foreplay usually does it for her. I pestered her for ages to give me oral and she tried it but doesn't like the salty taste of the pre-cum so she will not even go near that area. As for you saying about your husband getting grumpy, I get like that some times even with the fleshlight. Its the craving for human contact, not the release.
Sadly this is a most common trait among many women after children and they never return to any kind of normal sexual activity and they don't understand the need to like men. A shame really and one of the reasons why fleshlight is a marriage saver I guess, for those who wish to stay with their partner and not cheat but yet still enjoy that warmth of a woman, or in this case a simulated one. Best wishes to you tank.. a very hard position to be in and I fully sympathise and commend you!
Tankman, I have held off from this thread until now. You might recall that I am deprived of sexual intercourse with my wife of many years, because it has become painful for her. She is not, and never was, interested in oral sex.
After three years, I discovered Fleshlight. This has made my life very much better.
I do feel that in your case, there is a good chance that your wife may re-discover her libido. Meanwhile, I am sure that because you love her, you will understand that she finds all this difficult for HER to understand. I have no doubt that women ARE different in the way that they are programmed towards sex.
I have had to face the fact that I can no longer expect to resume a full normal relationship. So, companionship and my fleshlights June and Lia will have to do. That is better than many men have.
Good luck, and you have my sympathy and understanding. Hang on, its better than cheating on you wife, hard though it may seem.
Regards, jonnyW
After three years, I discovered Fleshlight. This has made my life very much better.
I do feel that in your case, there is a good chance that your wife may re-discover her libido. Meanwhile, I am sure that because you love her, you will understand that she finds all this difficult for HER to understand. I have no doubt that women ARE different in the way that they are programmed towards sex.
I have had to face the fact that I can no longer expect to resume a full normal relationship. So, companionship and my fleshlights June and Lia will have to do. That is better than many men have.
Good luck, and you have my sympathy and understanding. Hang on, its better than cheating on you wife, hard though it may seem.
Regards, jonnyW
You are right Johnny. Womans attitude is different. As for the libido, I don't believe it will ever return. Companionship and my children is what drives me really. It would be nice to have a more intimate relationship with my wife, but the fleshlights have made it easier to cope. I'm the kind of person who believes that marriage really is until death do us part.
goddam, could you imagine having an orgasm everytime u yawned. Wow, id be in ecstasy all the time for the amount I yawn
I'm thinking Orgazmo with the orgazmirator ray gun
*EDIT* Fixed with link so you know what I'm talking about lol
*EDIT* Fixed with link so you know what I'm talking about lol
Lol, Faz, you would have to stop working so hard, be less tired, and yawn less. Otherwise you'd have nothing left for Fazchicky!
lol fazchicky would like it if I had nothing left for her every now and then. Doesnt matter how tired I am, Im always in the mood and wanting it. Need it at least once a week, satisfied with 3 to 4 times a week, and would be quite content with at least once a day.
not quite every, butmost yeh
lol Faz....
In all honesty.. Fazchick should be on the fish oil now.. she has had her 2nd child and this libido could now almost disappear until the kids are 8 and 9. Women when bearing children become more a machine to clean, cook, care for the kids, drive them around to kindy and school and at the end of it.. guys want to have sex with us and we are like "what the fuck?" lol So I highly suggest she goes on the orgasmic diet and watch her libido pick back up and also she will cope better with these day to day robotic things that a mother must do.
my 2c
Pash
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In all honesty.. Fazchick should be on the fish oil now.. she has had her 2nd child and this libido could now almost disappear until the kids are 8 and 9. Women when bearing children become more a machine to clean, cook, care for the kids, drive them around to kindy and school and at the end of it.. guys want to have sex with us and we are like "what the fuck?" lol So I highly suggest she goes on the orgasmic diet and watch her libido pick back up and also she will cope better with these day to day robotic things that a mother must do.
my 2c
Pash
x
I like your 2c, Pash. Very shiny and informative.
yes pash your 2c must be worth a mint.
appears so often on all manner of subjects.
a very welcome injection of wisdom
anyways better log off for now looks like a ball biter of a storm heading this way... again
appears so often on all manner of subjects.
a very welcome injection of wisdom
anyways better log off for now looks like a ball biter of a storm heading this way... again
already spoken to fazchicky on this one pashy, she doesnt want to take the fish oil, maybe u should talk to her some in feb when u see her.
Will do Faz. 
QUOTE(BigAl @ Nov 27 2007, 10:33 PM)
Well its all been said before I think so lets see what can I add, hmmm,
well designed and manufactured product also faultless supplier service.
I think though a couple of things need to be spelled out for the new users !
No its not going to be like a real pussy, it doesn't moan, throb, cream, pulsate, give olfactory stimulation or leave scratches down your back, however that said it certainly will give you a far better experience than miss palmer ever could and it will help you gain better control over the one eyed monster, that alone should be worth the bucks !
One thing I did noticed though, in the beginning its like any relationship in that it takes time to get used to it,
to find how to get the max out of it, time to experiment and to push it to the limits so you can really blow your mind.
Oh yeah and it is time well worth spending, especially if your partner wants to get involved.
Personally I kinda got my WonderWave by accident, it was a gift for my bro that didn't make it on time,
but both me and my wife are thanking the gods for that stroke of serendipity.
well designed and manufactured product also faultless supplier service.
I think though a couple of things need to be spelled out for the new users !
No its not going to be like a real pussy, it doesn't moan, throb, cream, pulsate, give olfactory stimulation or leave scratches down your back, however that said it certainly will give you a far better experience than miss palmer ever could and it will help you gain better control over the one eyed monster, that alone should be worth the bucks !
One thing I did noticed though, in the beginning its like any relationship in that it takes time to get used to it,
to find how to get the max out of it, time to experiment and to push it to the limits so you can really blow your mind.
Oh yeah and it is time well worth spending, especially if your partner wants to get involved.
Personally I kinda got my WonderWave by accident, it was a gift for my bro that didn't make it on time,
but both me and my wife are thanking the gods for that stroke of serendipity.
FUCK! I wish that my brother bought one for me, can you be my brother for a day? . . .
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